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“Les Miz” Star Anne Hathaway: “I Can’t Sing Like Susan Boyle”

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by PAULA SCHWARTZ, Special to Showbiz411–Anne Hathaway’s haunting and raw take of “I Dreamed a Dream” as the tortured waif Fantine in “Les Miserables,” Tom Hooper’s follow-up to “The King’s Speech,” is not the version Susan Boyle sang to international stardom on English television.

In a Q&A following the 7 p.m. screening Friday at Alice Tully Hall, Hathaway said, “Part of the reason why it’s not the song Susan Boyle sang is because I can’t sing like Susan Boyle.”

Hathaway, a shoo-in for a supporting Oscar nod, said the nicest thing she did for herself was that she didn’t listen to Patti LuPone’s version until she was finished filming. “And I’m so glad I didn’t because it would just have been too much. The bar for this song has been set so high by so many incredible vocalists that there’s just no way that I was going to be able to match it, so the only thing I could do was to do it differently and do it really real and really get inside of it.”

In a move that may not please “Les Miz” purists, the actress added that she thought it “was a really cool decision” by the director and the film’s writers to place the song after she’s had her first experience as a prostitute as opposed to after she’s lost her job, “because you can really get inside the pain and see the beginning of that rage she has and watch this woman shut her heart down. Victor Hugo described her as having a heart of stone with only one bit of light left at the bottom and she kept the light for her daughter, so to be able to get into the song from that perspective, I was excited about getting to do it like that.”

When asked how many takes it took to do the scene, Hathaway said 2 ½. At one point she had an earpiece problem. “I was hearing myself so loudly in this quiet space,” she said, and “everything was too close, so I just put them in so I couldn’t hear myself anymore and I let it rip, and I think that’s the one that’s in the movie.”

“Performances are often patchwork quilts of many different takes, whereas in the central songs all the songs,” Hooper said, “are one take.”

Also, if you were wondering, Hathaway’s hair–er, Fantine’s hair– was hacked off in real time.

Hooper said his experience of watching Hathaway’s hair coming off was a “slightly difference experience” from that of the actress. The make up man, an experienced and talented hair stylist, dressed as the crone, started working and Hooper said, “I watched before my eyes the most gorgeously crafted pixie cut appear,” he said, while “Annie was acting like it was a terrible trauma of her hair cut, and I was thinking this is just a creation of a lovely short haircut.” Hooper said he gave the hair guy a pep talk and told him to give Hathaway “a savage haircut. You have to make it ugly.”

Hathaway’s misery in that scene is real. “I put it up there with the most difficult things I’ve ever had to do, which I wasn’t expecting. I didn’t think I was that vain.”

During the 15-minute costume change she took a first look, where she was bald up front. “It was the worst moment ever actually, come to think of it,” she laughed, “and then it was done, and it was done, and I took a few beats and looked into the mirror and called my husband,” Hathaway said. “I said, ‘I honestly look like my gay brother.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Larry Hagman, the One and Only J.R. Ewing, Dies at Age 81

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Larry Hagman has passed away at a Dallas hospital at age 81. The one and only J.R. Ewing, star of “Dallas,” looked like he wouldn’t make it much longer during the last few episods of the “Dallas” re boot. But she was still shooting new episodes until recently. I must confess to loving the original “Dallas” and Hagman especially. I was so happy to sit and talk with him and his wife Maj a few years ago in Malibu. I asked Maj about Larry’s famous tradition of staying silent one day a week. She said it drove her nuts. Larry was as charming as ever.

The son of Broadway star Mary Martin, Larry Hagman had his first hit on TV with “I Dream of Jeannie,” where he was underrated on the silly show for his physical comedy and stamina. He’s in almost every scene of the show. He appeared in various other shows and miscellaneous movies through the early 1970s, but it wasn’t until “Dallas” in 1977 that he became a household name. And then “Who Shot JR?” put him and the show on the map. My personal favorite scenes were Larry with Ken Kercheval as Cliff Barnes. JR took such delight in torturing Cliff, and Hagman was a genius at it.

It’s a sign of Hagman’s influence on “Dallas” that even though the reboot was supposed to be about the new generation, it eventually came back to J.R. Hagman, looking gaunt, persevered, and made the new series delicious as ever. It’s the death of a real star, and a real loss. Condolences to his family and fans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luN5-O5WDAE&feature=related

 

First Review: “Les Miserables” Comes to Movies with Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway

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Cheers and a standing ovation this afternoon at the first screening of the film version of “Les Miserables.” Tom Hooper, Oscar winner for The King’s Speech, has made a thrilling, sensational epic of the legendary Broadway show. This now becomes the “Titanic” of this year’s awards season, the epic film to beat. Hugh Jackman is a triumph as Jean Valjean, Anne Hathaway sings the heck out of the film’s big numbers, and Samantha Barks just about steals the film. Russell Crowe makes for a solid Javert. And the many supporting players, especially Aaron Tveit, Eddie Redmayne and Amanda Seyfried, are top notch.

Universal Pictures with help from Peggy Siegal put on two blockbuster screenings this afternoon and this evening at Lincoln Center’s Alice Tully Hall. Anne Hathaway, husband Adam Schulman, and Anne’s parents Gerry and Kate sat right in front of me. It was the second time this week that Anne, who plays Fantine, sat down and watched the film all the way through. Hooper gives her the first of his many signature closeups as she sings “I Dreamed a Dream” and brings down the house. As Fantine, Hathaway breathes life into the tortured waif whose saga spurs Jean Valjean through the post-French Revolution years and student uprisings of he 1830s. She will be a Best Supporting Actress nominee. And with any luck she’ll sing on the Oscars.

Jackman and co-star Crowe were not present tonight, but Hathaway, Redmayne, Barks and director Hooper sat for a Q&A with Columbia film professor Annette Insdorf. We learned that there was no lipsynching–everything was sung live, and you can feel it. Barks and Tveit, however, are the Voices with a capital V in this film. There is no denying their accomplishment in this inordinately well cast film.

The other pair who stand out are Helena Bonham Carter and Sacha Baron Cohen, straight out of Tim Burton’s film of “Sweeney Todd.” (“Les Miz” diehards won’t like this, but much of this show is influenced, ahem, by “Sweeney Todd” and Stephen Sondheim.) HBC and SBC are absolutely hilarious and wily together. They also get to sing “Master of the House,” the comic number with loads of nods to “More Hot Pies” from the other musical. As Cossette’s guardians, and parents of Eponine (Barks), they are indelible fun.

And then there’s Hugh Jackman. He’ll be nominated for Best Actor and will likely win. The movie hangs on him, and he carries it from beginning to end. It’s his best work ever, the pinnacle for him as he combines his musical and dramatic talents. Hooper said in the Q&A he wouldn’t have made the movie if Jackman didn’t exist, and he’s right. This is the role of a lifetime, like Robert Goulet in “Camelot.” Wolverine may have to break out in song in his next film.

Tom Hooper steered this ship, and it’s a massive cruise liner. The thing Hooper does so well is bring history to life–whether it’s John Adams or Queen Elizabeth I or the stuttering King George. In the “John Adams” miniseries, there’s a great breakfast scene in which John and Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin all get together in Paris. It’s as if we’re eavesdropping on these famous but inaccessible people. In “Les Miz,” Hooper pulls off just this trick. The canvas is broad but the characters are intimate and so well drawn that you feel you know them, and their French revolt, by the time the end comes.

I went to the 25th anniversday show of “Les Miz” at the O2 Arena in London a couple of years ago. People from around the world are devoted to this show. These armies of “Les Miz” fans will not be disappointed by this film. Something tells me they will see it three and four times.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/03/nick-jonas-unlikely-les-miz-star-at-25th-anniversary

 

Spike Lee Film on ABC Spikes Michael Jackson “Bad” Box Into Top 40

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UPDATE: The Spike Lee film on ABC last night has pushed the “Bad25” boxed set up to number 37 on amazon.com.

Earlier: The Spike Lee documentary on Michael Jackson, “Bad 25,” aired Thursday night on ABC. For some reason, I could never get anyone to send me a review DVD, so I waited and DVR’d it in real time. “Bad25” the doc is pretty much a sales vehicle for the “Bad25” boxed set of four discs–the original album, the outtake demos, a Wembley Arena concert–that is worth buying as one package.

Indeed, last night’s showing sent “Bad25” the boxed set up to number 189 on Amazon.com, so it was a success. Spike Lee makes excellent documentaries, so it’s no surprise that he’s turned the making of “Bad,” Michael’s followup album to “Thriller,” into a good yarn. He weaves in some amazing clips of Michael performing on the “Bad” tour, and we get to see the real unfettered genius — dancing, singing, composing–that was Michael before the 90s began and his life fell apart in an almost non stop fast forward of catastrophes.

No effort is made to examine what happened after “Bad” and its tour. One thing that happened was Michael’s capricious dismissal of Frank DiLeo, the manager who steered him through the 80s and his great successes. DiLeo was starting to voice disagreement with Jackson about the direction of his life, and Michael–who in Spike Lee’s movie comes off as an enchanted child–showed off his willfulness and fired him. Almost no mention of DiLeo is made in the Spike Lee film, although he gets a nice thank you on the boxed set. If, if, if…If DiLeo had remained, maybe Michael would not have spent money wildly and indulged fantasies that became his undoing. We’ll never know. But after that, no ever said ‘no’ again, and if they did, they were gone.

A lot of other people are noticeably absent from the Lee film, but Spike keeps it on the music. And in that it’s only good. Just the full length clips of Michael, live, performing “Man in the Mirror” (which he didn’t write) and “Another Part of Me,” are worth the whole movie. Also, Spike does reference the various influences Jackson had from Fred Astaire and old black and white movies. Like Madonna, Michael Jackson was proficient in processing what came before him and re-imagining it for a new generation.

Some things are said in this movie and left unexamined, including observations about Michael’s image with women needing change, his insistence on using a high little boy’s voice instead of his own deep register, and his being “too shy” to kiss the hot girl at the end of a video. These things just hang in the air. There were a few other things I found odd, or funny, but they’re irrelevant right now. The main purpose of “Bad25,” besides generating income, is to appreciate Michael Jackson’s art. Judged just for that, Spike Lee did a great job.

 

“Red Dawn” Remake Sneaks Into Theaters, a Disaster

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“Red Dawn,” the remake of John Milius’s 1984 classic, sneaks into theaters tomorrow with as little fanfare as possible. It’s one of the worst received films of this year or any other, with an 11% at rottentomatoes.com. If there was press for “Red Dawn,” it must have been somewhere else. The only premiere I know of was on a military base in California–no Hollywood or New York unveiling.

“Red Dawn” was ready for a release a year ago, but no one knew what to do with it. Now it comes on the same weekend as “Life of Pi” and the widening release of “Silver Linings Playbook,” with “Lincoln” and “Skyfall” doing great, and “Rise of the Guardians” taking over the animated field. Plus, “Twilight: The Trilogy Finally Ends, Pt. 2” is setting records.

“Red Dawn” signals the career debut of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman’s high school age, deejaying son Connor. But that p.r. twist isn’t going to mean much as the sun will set on this dawn long before many get to see him do any acting. MGM knows this: the “Red Dawn” DVD is already set for release on February 26, 2013– exactly 90 days from today, the bare minimum time from which a disc can be launched after a theatrical release, and two days after the Oscars–for which this film will not be a factor.

 

 

 

Kelly Preston Uses Convicted Pharmacist with Suspended License As “Expert” on TV Show “The Doctors”

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Exclusive: On the November 21st episode of the syndicated TV show “The Doctors,” spooky Scientologist Kelly Preston shilled for her fellow sect member Kirstie Alley’s Organic Liaison diet program. As part of the show, Preston presented a taped piece in which she visited a place called Alternative Laboratories, which makes supplements for Alley’s company. What Preston didn’t say is that the “expert” in the Alternative Laboratories segment had his pharmacy license suspended in 2004 for ten years after pleading guilty to a host of charges of fraud and for failing a personal drug test.

Read this: http://www.doh.state.fl.us/mqa/FinalOrders/05-01-14/DOH-04-1589-ESO.pdf

Arriving in the Naples, Florida offices of Alternative Laboratories, Preston called a man in a lab coat “Dr. Ryan.” But Ryan Margot is not a medical doctor, which was the implication. Margot is the Research and Development Director of Alternative Laboratories. In fact, he was once a pharmacist. But Ryan Margot’s pharmacy license was suspended in 2004. He pleaded guilty to 39 counts of obtaining drugs like Hydrocodone through fraud. The emergency suspension reads: “Upon questioning, Mr. Margot admitted to diverting 46 prescriptions, totaling 4,830 pills…Margot was arrested on August 21, 2001.” He was charged with grand theft.

Here’s Margo’s rap sheet and mug shot: http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Ryan_Margot_2029513/

There’s more, and it’s all bad. Margot pleaded guilty to 39 counts of “obtaining or attempting to obtain, or possession of controlled substance by misrepresentation, fraud, forgery, deception, or subterfuge.” He got ten years in a Florida State Prison, suspended sentence, and 60 months of drug probation.

You’d think that was bad enough. But in July 2004 Margot failed a urine test for Bultalbital, Hydrocodone, and Hydromorphone. He was re-arrested for violation of probation. That was when his license as a pharmacist was finally suspended.

For the last two years, Margot has worked for Alternative Labs, identified in Preston’s piece as the place Kirstie Alley uses to prepare foods and diet supplements. He gave Preston a short lecture on the value of “organic foods” and was identified as an expert on the subject. “The Doctors” apparently just took the taped segment from Preston without questioning it.

Kevin Thomas, who owns Alternative Labs, told me tonight by phone that he did not know Margot’s history. But he also doesn’t care. He said that Margot was a great guy whose problems were behind him. He said Margot had told him he’d had some personal problems with drugs. Thomas was unaware of Margot’s ten year suspension. He also said, “We don’t have those kinds of drugs around here.” Thomas also told me he is not a Scientologist.

I wrote three years ago that Organic Liaison was just another front for Scientology. Alley denounced me on the Today show. But the story stands. Since I wrote it, Alley has added another top Scientologist, Brit Andrew Banks, to the advisory board.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/03/15/20100315kirstie-alley-diet-scheme-scientology-front

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/03/16/20100316kirstie-alley-wrong-on-the-today-show-about-scientology-connection

Preston was allowed by “The Doctors’ to promote Organic Liaison without question. She also made wild claims on the show which the so-called “doctors” did not dispute. Among them that her late son Jett’s autism “was going away” when he died. Autism does not “go away.”

For years, Preston and John Travolta insisted that Jett was not autistic. They claimed that Jett had Kawasaki Syndrome, and stuck to it even after Jett died. It was only in the police report from the Bahamas, after Jett died, that Travolta admitted to the authorities that Jett was autistic. Nevertheless, it’s pretty clear Jett was never treated for autism. His “nanny” was a man named Jeff Kathrein, who was not a nurse but a wedding photographer from Tampa. No one has ever adequately explained why Jett was in Kathrein’s care.

Kathrein can be seen in a YouTube video taken in Paris of Travolta, Preston, Jett and daughter Ella Blue. Jett is clearly not “with it” in the video. He is so oblivious to what’s going on around him that he can’t even move over in as SUV to let Travolta sit down. The father has to climb over the son to get in. The look on Travolta’s face says it all. He’s in pain, concerned about his son because he knows he’s vulnerable.  It’s actually kind of heartbreaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Iz7dopJrtE

 

 

Steven Tyler, Aerosmith Make Accidental History with Sean Lennon

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It was 38 years ago this week–Thanksgiving 1974– that John Lennon surprised Madison Square Garden and joined Elton John on stage for a couple of historic numbers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zWSJQvFTg4

Last night, by accident, Sean Lennon, John and Yoko Ono’s 37 year old son, strapped on a guitar quite on the spur of the moment and joined Aerosmith on stage at the Garden for his father’s Beatles song “Come Together.”

Sean and his girlfriend Charlotte had come to the Garden on a last minute invite from Liv Tyler, Steven Tyler’s daughter with Bebe Buell. No one had thought of the date or the meaning, and Sean had no intention on his way downtown to the Garden of playing with Aerosmith. But Tyler suggested it when he arrived, since Aerosmith had had a hit with “Come Together” years ago. Sean took to the stage with disarming confidence, and walked right into the number. The audience went wild. It was only when young Lennon was done that this reporter recalled the date to him.

Sean, an affable, pleasant young man, then recalled for the group assembled backstage–Steven Tyler and most of his family including Liv, her 7 year old son Milo, daughter Mia, son Taj, Tyler’s sister Lynda with her husband and friends, plus Liv’s mom Bebe (the unofficial First Lady of Aerosmith) and her husband Jim Wallerstein–the whole story of how Yoko Ono, separated from Lennon had sent her husband a white gardenia backstage, and they reunited after almost two years apart. (The actual reunion took place in January 1975.) “That’s when I was conceived,” said Sean, with a gentle laugh. “They probably talked right here in this dressing room.”

Lennon was impressed with how friendly and comfortable it was to play with Aerosmith. “It was very nice.” he said to Steven Tyler, who’d come off the stage after two hours of rocking the absolutely sold out Garden wild. He’s 64 years old. Tyler looked at Lennon and said, “Nice? Nice? Where was the Devil?” he joked.

The Devil was in just about every number as Aerosmith, still with the same members after 400 years, didn’t let up for the entire show following opening act Cheap Trick. They turned the place upside down with “Mama Kin,, “Rag Doll, “Walk this Way,” “Dream On,” and “Sweet Emotion.” “You have incredible catalog,” Lennon said to Tyler. “It’s just hit after hit.”

If there were still a radio business, Aerosmith’s “What Could Have Been Love” would already be a massive hit.

But it was a night of celebration. Tyler is clean, sober, and never better. He and the band, including Joe Perry, are solid. There’s a lot of camaraderie backstage. There is no tension– and believe me, I’ve been witness to backstage travails with lots of bands over the years. Backstage is pretty much open door– with people coming and going. The shows are sold 95% right from the floor to the top top top. And when the show was over most everyone headed downtown to the Darby for an after hours party.

PS Sean Lennon has amazing stage presence, and looks terrific up there. Let’s hope he makes a commercial record soon.

Also take a look at that picture. This is what rock stars look like. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry. Perry, by the way, is writing a book with David Ritz. It will be out next fall 2013.\

 

Both pictures with this story c2012 Showbiz411

And So It Begins: SAG Mails Nomination Ballots Tomorrow

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The ballots for nominations in the Screen Actors Guild Awards go into the mail tomorrow. And so awards season begins. Of course, several movies have not been seen yet including Les Miserables, Zero Dark Thirty, Django Unchained a couple more. SAG voters this round are on nominating committees. They pare down all the different possible candidates into a ballot that the membership votes on after nominations. The SAG Awards take place on January 27th. and pretty much indicate the direction of Academy voters since a lot of them are also in SAG. And the biggest SAG Award is Best Ensemble. That’s going to be a tight race. Silver Linings Playbook, Argo, Best Exotic Marigold Hotel, The Master, and Lincoln are certainly the strongest contenders.

“Scandalous,” Musical Backed by Amway Family and Christian Right, Barely Holding On

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“Scandalous,” the musical co-written and labored over by Kathie Lee Gifford for a dozen years, is barely holding on. Despite bravura performances by Carolee Carmello and Roz Ryan, and mixed–not negative–reviews, “Scandalous” took in the least amount of money of any Broadway show last week–just $147,000, down considerably from the previous week. “Scandalous” tells the saga of Christian evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson, who rose to fame in her live shows and on radio in the 1930s. She died in 1944 at age 54. The show takes a realistic look at her successes, failures, and complicated personal life.

But the funding of “Scandalous” is not typical. There are just four producers, and they are all connected to Christian or right wing organizations. The show is funded  by the church that McPherson founded and has since turned into a giant money maker– the FourSquare Church of Santa Monica, California.

But the main backer of the musical is connected to Amway, the controversial direct marketing company from Michigan that is often accused of being a pyramid scheme and worse. Amway has been embroiled in many lawsuits, such as the one where they had to pay Procter and Gamble damages for telling people they were a Satanic organization. (Fans of “As the World Turns” may feel that way, but that’s another story.)

Amway was founded by by Richard Devos and his wife Helen. Now Devos’s son Dick and his wife Betsy are the backers of “Scandalous.” The arch conservative couple’s interest in Broadway and Gifford has not gone unnoticed up in Michigan, where there’s been much blogging on the subject: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2012/08/dick_and_betsy_devos_get_scand.html

The Devos family is very, very wealthy thanks to Amway. Together, all the members of the family are involved in charitable funds with total assets of close to $300 million that back Christian causes. Lately, the Devos’s have been donating big amounts to arts causes and the Kennedy Center in Washington, DC– hoping to spread the Christian message.

Another website has noted that the right wing Christian values are very much behind Aimee Semple McPherson coming to Broadway. It’s funny, too, because Gifford’s idea is a good one. And her presentation of McPherson is pretty even handed. But it’s been noted that FourSquare Church, which McPherson founded in 1923 has money in the show, has changed a lot since then.

Jeff Smith of the Grand Rapids Institute for Information Accuracy writes: “Foursquare Church continues to promote hyper-conservative religious values such as anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage and the dominance of Christian values in public life. Former Foursquare pastor Jack Hayford, now the head of Kings College and Seminary, embraces Dominion theology, a theology that believes that religious doctrines should govern civic life. Essentially, those who embrace Dominion theology in the US would like to replace the US system of laws with the 10 Commandments. Hayford and other Foursquare leaders have also been involved with the patriarchal Christian movement known as the Promise Keepers.”

Indeed, the average Broadway theatergoer might be surprised if they actually read the website at www.foursquare.org.

The question now is whether the Devos’s, Amway, and Foursquare–all with deep pockets–will keep “Scandalous” going to see if it can find its own flock.

Bradley Cooper Will Work “Again and Again” with “Silver Linings” Director David O. Russell

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Hmmm…Doesn’t seem like yesterday when David O. Russell was in contretemps with actors like George Clooney, Dustin Hoffman, and Lily Tomlin? Well, people mellow and mature, and that’s certainly the case with Russell. First it was “The Fighter.” Now with “Silver Linings Playbook,” Russell has come of age. Everyone loves the movie. Everyone loves working with him. It’s a happy ending.

At last night’s “Silver Linings” premiere in Los Angeles, star Bradley Cooper only sang Russell’s praises. “I’m going to work with him again and again.  That’s the biggest testament,” Cooper told our LEAH SYDNEY.

Cooper is riding high towards an Oscar nomination for Best Actor in “Silver Linings,” along with all three of his co-stars Jennifer Lawrence, Jacki Weaver, and Robert DeNiro. Lawrence and Russell were there last night, as well as Chris Tucker, who comes of age himself as an actor in the great ensemble piece.

Also at the screening: producer of the film Bruce Cohen, co-star John Ortiz, songwriter Diane Warren, who wrote the ‘Silver Lining, Crazy ‘Bout You,’ song, composer for the film Danny Elfman, plus Peter Fonda, Jacqueline Bisset, Dermot Mulroney, Robert Loggia, Sharon Lawrence, Sally Kellerman, Dane Cook, Jane Seymour, Ron Burkle and more.

Jennifer had to jet back to shooting ‘Hunger Games’ but she helped introduce the film and quipped to the crowd, “Thanks for coming and please don’t judge my dancing.”  There’s a lot of dancing in “Silver Linings” in the mode of the various reality shows on TV. But it’s far less tacky and very funny.

Cooper very much dug the surroundings last night– the famed Academy of Motion Pictures in Beverly Hills. “I was here for a Q and A recently for the first time. And there’s an amazing feeling here.  You definitely feel the history, look around, there’s a great Stanley Kubrick exhibit here and it’s so exciting. I’m kind of overwhelmed by it all, and really grateful. ”

He could see that the audience has embraced “Silver Linings,” too. Cooper:  “People seemed to really like this movie.  It’s connected in a way that I’m not used to.  That’s the goal though.  To make movies that people appreciate. You don’t always do that.  But I think we did with this one.  I think this one really scored.”

Coincidentally, Cooper and Lawrence have another coming up– they’re a team now. They costar has husband and wife in a Depression-era piece directed by Suzanne Bier called “Serena.” And then Cooper works with Cameron Crowe. What’s his favorite Crowe film?  “Jerry Maguire.  The show me the money scene, every scene really.  But that’s hard to pick one, because Cameron’s work is so interesting to me. ”