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Ratings: Biden Surprise Victory over Trump in TV Town Hall Tug of War: HUGE Win in Key Demo 18-49 and Even with Cable Counted In

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UPDATE: Adding cable from MSNBC and CNBC didn’t help Trump, who still came up short by 1 million viewers.

Biden Town Hall: 12.7 million vs. Trump Town Hall: 10.3 million.

The people have spoken!

ABC’s Town Hall with Joe Biden scored 12.7 million viewers from 8 to 9pm last night while NBC’s Donald Trump Town Hall managed only 10.3 million.

 

Further, Biden held on to 11.7 million voters for his second hour on ABC with George Stephanopolous.

 

The key demo, though, is crazy: a 15 for Biden, a 10 for Trump in the 18-49 men.  He got a 9 with women. This means that Biden is winning young people and middle aged people by a wide margin. He won among men, which is so important. (Maybe men are tired of dying from COVID?) In adults 50 and over, Biden edged out Trump with a 15 over a 14.

All the demos were for Biden, which is really solid. He trounced Trump across the board.

Trump’s lying and constant waffling about everything from when he was last tested for COVID to his support of white supremacists is not going over with the biggest sectors of the population.

Celebrities and many others were angry at NBC for staging the Trump Town Hall at the same time as the previously announced Biden event. But as it turns out, NBC knew what they were doing: Savannah Guthrie sacked Trump over and over like Tom Brady on his best day with the Patriots. And at the same time, running their show was almost like a pre-voting day referendum. LOL.

Trump, who lives by ratings, will be shook now.

Cable ratings for MSNBC etc will be in later but it shouldn’t change things much. MSNBC viewers hate Trump. And Fox News didn’t broadcast the Town Hall. So it’s unlikely Trump picked up viewers from cable.

PS Thanks to Mitch Metcalf and Showbuzz Daily for the numbers.

 

Will Adele’s 5 Year Absence from Music Hurt Her Sales, Popularity? Her Peers Released Dozens of Albums, Singles, Made Movies

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Adele released last her album on November 20, 2015. Barack Obama was still president. Life was no normal. There was no pandemic.

More importantly, in the time since “25” was a sales blockbuster, all of Adele’s peers kept working and releasing music. While Adele slept, everyone else buzzed away.

If Adele is coming with new music before the end of the year, it’s instructive to see what her “graduating class” has been up to. The answer is a lot. She certainly could have put out music over the last five years. Will her absence hurt her sales or her popularity? I doubt anything will equal the frenzy over “25.” Five years is a generation in high school demographic terms. Fans move on from teen years to early 20s.

But meantime, think of this. In the last five years:

Taylor Swift released three whole albums, “Reputation,” “Lover,” and “Folklore.”

Katy Perry released two: “Witness” and “Smile.” And she had a baby and hosted “American Idol.”

Ariana Grande had a similarly large output: four albums including “Dangerous Woman,” “Sweetener,” “Thank You, Next,” New October 2020 release

Lady Gaga? Well, she made three albums including “Chromatica,” “Joanne,” and “A Star is Born.” Plus she starred in “A Star is Born” and was nominated for an Oscar.

Selena Gomez, despite illness that would have slowed anyone down, just kept working: 1 album, 13 singles on which she was featured, plus several acting jobs including Woody Allen’s “Rainy Day in New York.”

Beyonce, who had twins at some point, produced four albums including: “Lemonade,” “Homecoming Live Album,” plus “The Lion King: The Gift” and the current video project “Black is King,” 13 or 14 singles that she participated in.

Rihanna was the stingiest, but only because she become a cosmetics tycoon: One album, 13 singles.

He’s Lonely: Pop Whimp Justin Bieber Whines and Yodels in Pity Party Single About Being Rich, Famous, and Misunderstood

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Is this for real?

Justin Bieber’s new single, “Lonely,” is a pity party for himself in which he whines and yodels about being rich, famous, and misunderstood.

This is a pop star bereft of ideas, so isolated from reality that he doesn’t realize millions of people are out of work, and we’re living through a pandemic. No, “Lonely” is all about ME ME ME. This is from a 25 year old covered in tattoos living in a mansion with his beautiful young wife. He’s really suffering.

No one wants to hear it, Justin. You are a ridiculous person. You lack all intellectual curiosity or any sense of the world around you.

Bieber is so far below the rest of his pop class, starting with Demi Lovato, whose “Commander in Chief” is a sensational pop moment.

Grade: F. He’ll be lucky if Melania Trump doesn’t write a response single called “I Don’t Care, Do You?”

For Real: Trump Tweets Out Fake Story About Twitter Shutting Down, Tricked By Satirical Newspaper Babylon Bee

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Donald Trump was tricked this morning by satirical newspaper The Babylon Bee, an online publication similar to The Onion.

Trump believed a story they published about Twitter shutting down called “Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News”

He fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. He no doubt didn’t read beyond the headline into the copy. If he had, he might have seen: “After seeing account after account tweet out one particularly bad story, CEO Jack Dorsey realized he had to take action. Dorsey smashed a glass box in his office reading “Break In Case Of Bad Publicity For Democrats.” Inside the case was a sledgehammer for smashing Twitter’s servers. “Red alert — shut the servers down! Shut them all down!”

Instead, the president of the United States wrote:
“Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T”

Meantime, Trump’s Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnemy has had her Twitter account suspended forever, it seems. And the NYPost’s Twitter account also has been suspended for the last 48 hours. This is all because of a fake news story published by the Post involved Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, allegedly colluding with Ukrainians. Twitter has finally stepped up and done the right thing.

But this Tweet from Donald Trump will remain a classic

NBC Trump Town Hall: Savannah Guthrie Debates and Wins, But NBC Celebrities Criticize Network

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The infamous NBC Trump Town Hall is over. It lasted one hour, with NBC’s Savannah Guthrie basically debating Trump and correcting lies. She must be exhausted. It was like a prize fight. But she did get Trump to admit that he owes someone $412 million. He didn’t deny it.

He also didn’t disavow Qanon, the crazy conspiracy group. When asked about it he, Trump pretended he knew nothing about them, then said they were anti-pedophilia. He also wouldn’t disavow white supremacist groups. He skirted every question and refused to be pinned down.

At one point Guthrie– talking him retweeting crazy statements– said, “It’s not like you’re someone’s crazy uncle and can re-Tweet anything you want.”

If you listen to Trump’s blathering, he’s really saying that everyone should be given the choice to embrace misogyny. racism, white supremacy. and let the chips fall where they may. And he won’t take a side. We have not moved an inch from Charlottesville and “there are fine people on both sides.”

Guthrie really hung in there and did an excellent job. But it’s like wrestling with mercury. Trump slips and slides. He’s vile, and loves it.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden’s thoughtful, decisive, and measured Town Hall, in the real world, continues on ABC.

 

Tony Nominations So Weird Aaron Tveit Could Lose to No One, Only Best Score Nominations Went to Plays, Not Musicals

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Really, it’s another world. The Tony nominations came from 16 eligible shows, a very slight field. The result is that Aaron Tveit is the only nominee for Best Actor in a Musical. He can only lose to himself! Bully for him, but even Tveit knows he would have had a bunch of competitors had the season actually happened. So, it’s an odd victory.

Even weirder: the nominees for Best Score of a Musical came all from plays. Not one was from musical!

The Best Play was not “Slave Play.” If that wins, the voters are suffering from psych-fan-tism. It was pornographic and offensive. You could make thick sweaters from all the sheep who fell for that thing. I can’t wait til “Slave Play” hits tour and summer stock circuit. That should be pretty interesting.

The best play from this group was “The Sound Inside.” I’m sad that “Lucy Barton” wasn’t nominated. Best Musical, I don’t care. I didn’t like “Moulin Rouge” and didn’t see “Jagged Little Edge.” The best musical was the just about to open “Girl from the North Country.” They were robbed!


Best Play

Grand Horizons
The Inheritance
Sea Wall/ A Life
Slave Play
The Sound Inside


Best Revival Of A Play

Betrayal
A Soldier’s Play
Frankie and Johnny in the Clair de Lune

Best Musical
Moulin Rouge!
Jagged Little Pill
Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Book Of A Musical
Moulin Rouge!
Jagged Little Pill
Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Performance By An Actress In A Leading Role In A Play
Joaquina Kalukango, Slave Play
Laura Linney, My Name Is Lucy Barton
Audra McDonald, Frankie and Johnny in the Clair de Lune
Mary-Louise Parker, The Sound Inside

Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Play
Ian Barford, Linda Vista
Andrew Burnap, The Inheritance
Jake Gyllenhaal, Sea Wall/A Life
Tom Hiddleston, Betrayal
Tom Sturridge, Sea Wall/A Life
Blair Underwood, A Soldier’s Play

Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role in a Musical
Karen Olivo, Moulin Rouge!
Elizabeth Stanley, Jagged Little Pill
Adrienne Warren, Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role in a Musical

Aaron Tviet, Moulin Rouge!

**From The Tony Awards Rules: If the Tony Awards Nominating Committee has determined that if there is only one nominee in a category listed, such category shall be submitted to the Tony Voters which may, by the affirmative vote of sixty (60%) percent of the total ballots cast, grant an Award in that category

Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Play
Ato Blankson-Wood, Slave Play
James Cusati-Moyer, Slave Play
David Alan Grier, A Soldier’s Play
John Benjamin Hickey, The Inheritance
Paul Hilton, The Inheritance

Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role in a Play

Jane Alexander, Grand Horizons
Chalia La Tour, Slave Play
Annie McNamara, Slave Play
Lois Smith, The Inheritance
Cora Vander Broek, Linda Vista

Best Performance by an Actor in a Featured Role in a Musical

Danny Burstein, Moulin Rouge!
Derek Klena, Jagged Little Pill
Sean Allan Krill, Jagged Little Pill
Sahr Ngaujah, Moulin Rouge!
Daniel J. Watts, Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Performance by an Actress in a Featured Role in a Musical
Kathryn Gallagher, Jagged Little Pill
Celia Rose Gooding, Jagged Little Pill
Robyn Hurder, Moulin Rouge!
Lauren Patten, Jagged Little Pill
Myra Lucretia Taylor, Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Original Score (Music and/or Lyrics) Written for the Theatre
A Christmas Carole
The Inheritance
The Rose Tattoo
Slave Play
The Sound Inside

Best Direction Of A Play

The Sound Inside
The Inheritance
A Soldier’s Play
Betrayal
Slave Play

Best Direction Of A Musical

Tina: The Tina Turner Musical
Jagged Little Pill
Moulin Rouge

Best Choreography of a Musical
Jagged Little Pill
Moulin Rouge
Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Best Orchestrations
Jagged Little Pill
Moulin Rouge
Tina: The Tina Turner Musical

Mariah Carey’s Very Good, Very Bad 2 Weeks with Book, CD Shows How Short the News Cycle Is

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Wasn’t it just yesterday that Mariah Carey was everywhere? Yes, it was.

The singer released her memoir, “The Meaning of Mariah Carey,” on September 29th. That was two weeks ago. It was followed by her “Rarities” album. There was a flurry of activity. Last Thursday, “The Meaning” debuted on the New York Times best seller list for non fiction (when some argued it should be fiction) at number 1.

And today? The book is at number 8 on the New York Times list. On Amazon, it’s dropped to number 91, having never gotten to number 1. “The Meaning” is almost out of the top 100.

The good news is, you can get 3 copies for the price of 2 on amazon. (I’ve never seen that before for a book, just Lysol.) It’s a perfect stocking stuffer.

The album? Sold 15,000 copies on CD and download. Streaming of all the tracks, etc gives it a total of 25,000. But 15,000 people plunked down money to hear it. Which is too bad, because it has some nice stuff on it.

Anyway. It’s frustrating. This is how short the news cycle is. Also, this was the fan base for all this stuff. I get so much hate mail about Mariah. But then these fans don’t show up to support their idol. Perplexing.

At least Andy Cohen Books can trumpet “Number 1 New York Times Best Seller,” so that’s some consolation.

 

Watch the 2020 Tony Awards Nominations Here at 12 Noon Including “Tina!” “Moulin Rouge” “Jagged Little Pill,” “The Sound Inside”

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There are only 16 shows eligible for the 2020 Tony Awards. The nominees come from these shows, and it’s a mediocre list at best. The shows that would have really been in the Tony mix didn’t get to open. Hence, these Tony Awards will only be given online. That’s a shame for the people here who really did deserve acclaim, like Adrienne Warren as Tina Turner.

The sadder part of this is that after this business is concluded, we won’t have a Tony Awards again until June 2022. Broadway is officially dark through May 2021, with some shows announcing theoretical openings at the end of 2021. The pandemic has caused an economic and cultural catastrophe for New York’s theater world. So VOTE on November 3rd and let’s bring in people who can fix this fast.

Watch the video live below at 12 noon:

Demi Lovato, Bob Dylan of the Trump Resistance: Pop Star Releases Searing Anti-Trump “Commander in Chief”

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Who would have guessed that pop star Demi Lovato would turn out to be the Bob Dylan of the Trump resistance? Demi debuted a searing anti-Donald Trump anthem on the Billboard Awards last night, broadcast on the same NBC that tonight will host a Trump Town Hall against everyone’s wishes. Maybe Demi can sing “Commander in Chief” during the Town Hall! TMZ reports that NBC edited out the graphics around Demi during the performance that read VOTE because the network thought that implied VOTE for Biden. They’re geniuses!

Here’s the song, followed by the lyrics. Demi Lovato, you’ve got my vote!

COMMANDER IN CHIEF

If you mess with things selfishly, they’re bound to come undone?
I’m not the only one
That’s been affected and resented every story you’ve spun
And I’m a lucky one
‘Cause there are people worse off that have suffered enough
Haven’t they suffered enough?
But you can’t get enough of
Shuttin’ down systеms for personal gain
Fightin’ fires with flyers and prayin’ for rain
Do you gеt off on pain?
We’re not pawns in your game

[Chorus]
Commander in Chief, honestly
If I did the things you do
I couldn’t sleep, seriously
Do you even know the truth?
We’re in a state of crisis, people are dyin’
While you line your pockets deep
Commander in Chief, how does it feel to still
Be able to breathe?

[Verse 2]
We were taught when we were young
If we fight for what’s right, there won’t be justice for just some
Won’t give up, stand our ground
We’ll be in the streets while you’re bunkering down
Loud and proud, best believe
We’ll still take a knee while you’re

[Chorus]
Commander in Chief, honestly
If I did the things you do
I couldn’t sleep, seriously
Do you even know the truth?
We’re in a state of crisis, people are dyin’
While you line your pockets deep
Commander in Chief, how does it feel to still
Be able to breathe, breathe?
Be able to breathe

[Bridge]
Won’t give up, stand our ground
We’ll be in the streets while you’re bunkering down
Won’t give up, stand our ground
We’ll be in the streets while you’re
[Chorus]
Commander in Chief, honestly
If I did the things you do
I couldn’t sleep, seriously
Do you even know the truth?
We’re in a state of crisis, people are dyin’
While you line your pockets deep
Commander in Chief, how does it feel to still
Be able to breathe?
Able to breathe

Ariana Grande Says She Can’t Wait to “Give” Us Her New Album This Month, And Adele? It’s 5 Years Since “25”

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CORRECTED: The pop stars are aligning for a fall pre-Christmas release schedule.

Ariana Grande, who’s been unusually quiet the last few months, says on Twitter today that she can’t wait to “give” us her new album this month. By give I don’t think she means free distribution. Republic Records will brace for another hit collection in a series of successes, no doubt.

Ariana follows Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Taylor Swift who’ve all had 2020 releases. They’re all very different, too. But it’s definitely the era of these singers, not to forget Demi Lovato, Kesha, Pink, and a few others.

One diva has been MIA officially for five years. Adele released her “25” album in November 20, 2015. Five years is pretty much the maximum length anyone can wait, including the “Skyfall” single that came a little later. I’m told Adele will be dropping a single soon with an eye toward a similar mid-November album. Mid-to-late November is her best shot at real Christmas sales. Sony/Columbia could use it, and frankly, so could Adele. Stay tuned…