But this has become quite acceptable in modern warfare apparently — to kill a hell of a lot of innocent people in the process of getting one bad guy. And also I think this war is a very bad idea because it will never stop.
RF: President Bush appeals to the World War II generation….
KV: One of the great American tragedies is to have participated in a just war. It’s been possible for politicians and movie-makers to encourage us we’re always good guys. The Second World War absolutely had to be fought. I wouldn’t have missed it for the world. But we never talk about the people we kill. This is never spoken of.
RF: I just saw The Pianist, Roman Polanski‘s memoir of the Warsaw ghetto. When the main character finally emerges from hiding, Warsaw is destroyed. The first thing I thought of was you in Dresden.
KV: Warsaw’s condition was particularly interesting. German engineers undermined all the prominent buildings. That’s why there was nothing left. They wanted a Slavic capital.
RF: Are you amazed that you lived through the devastation of Dresden?
KV: No. I think I was the luckiest guy in the world. I wouldn’t have missed it. I got to see so much.
RF: Are you surprised that Slaughterhouse-Five is still so popular? Do you still get mail?
KV: My fan mail is the size of Eddie Fisher‘s, I think.
RF: Do people write to you as sort of armchair Kilgore Trouts, experts on things?
KV: These people are called schizophrenics. [Laughing.] They know all about the flying saucers.
RF: Seriously, your work has lasted. My friend still teaches a course on you in her high school.
KV: It’s just like going to Las Vegas. Maybe you win and maybe you don’t. I wrote what I had to write for whatever reasons. Apparently it was my destiny to write as I have, and yes we found readers.
Do I have a survivor’s syndrome after the Dresden firestorm? I have a survivor’s syndrome about all the wonderful writers I knew who ended in neglect and abject poverty.
RF: You’re thinking of people like your old friend Richard Yates [the great novelist and short story writer, author of Revolutionary Road]?
KV: Of course … In one book I told about a guy who rebuilt my house up in Cape Cod. He did the whole damn thing, put the footings in and the foundation, and when I asked him how he did it, he said he didn’t know.
I look at the list of books I’ve written and it’s not much of an output. I’m completely in print and how the hell I did it, I don’t know.
RF: Is there one book you’re more partial to than the others?
KV: The flagship of my little fleet is Cat’s Cradle.
RF: Personally, I find myself thinking of Norman Mushari from God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater all the time. I see a lot of Musharis in my line of work.
KV: They’re called lawyers, I think.
RF: They’re sneaky lawyers.
KV: Thinking of Mushari, I’ll tell you about a terrific book. It’s called The Mask of Sanity. It’s a medical textbook that’s out of print written by Dr. Hervey Cleckley, now dead.
And this book should be brought into print. It’s about psychopathic personalities.
This is certainly a symptom of what these executives at Enron and other places are like — psychopathic personalities. They have no conscience. They know the consequences of their actions and do not care.
RF: Are you actually writing another book?
KV: I am trying. I didn’t expect to live this long. As an actuarial matter, novelists and short-story writers do their best work when they’re young.
RF: But I loved Timequake. I was very disappointed when you said that was it.
KV: That’s friendly, thank you.
RF: Well, I mean it, and I think your fans will be thrilled to hear you’re still working. Happy birthday, Kurt.
KV: You know what they say. [Taking a beat]. If you think I’m a mess, you should see what Mozart looks like by now.