Friday, June 19, 2026

Penny Marshall: Debra Winger Dropped out of “League” Because of Madonna

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Everyone has a book this fall: Cyndi Lauper, Tony Danza, Alana Stewart, Rod Stewart, and so on. They’re all pretty interesting. But the one that’s got me enthralled right now is Penny Marshall’s “My Mother Was Nuts.” It’s absolutely hilarious and dead serious. Penny– one of the great people you meet who’s been a real Hollywood success–chronicles her journey from the Grand Concourse in the Bronx to life as a hit commercial film director (“Big,” “A League of their Own”) with writer Todd Gold. But it’s Penny’s raspy, punchline packed voice all the way through. You cannot put “My Mother Was Nuts” down. Just try.

Some tidbits: you know, she has recently survived a brain tumor and lung cancer. It’s a miracle. Her pal, Revlon’s Ronald Perelman, pulled out all the stops to help her. So did best buddies Carrie Fisher and Lorraine Bracco. One doctor told Penny she should be ready to “die with dignity.” She fired him immediately, thank god.

Her marriage to Rob Reiner almost didn’t happen, she said, because soon after they started dating, he had a nervous breakdown. They finally did tie the knot and had a successful union. She was on “Laverne and Shirley” and he was on “All in the Family.” But when the left his show, Reiner, she says, became unhappy about her success. It’s a typical Hollywood story. They didn’t divorce for six months after making the decision. Why? Richard Dreyfuss, who lived in their guest house, kept crying every time it was discussed.

There’s lots of good stuff about Penny’s films. Debra Winger, she says, dropped out of playing the lead in “A League of their Own” because Marshall cast Madonna in the film. “You’re making an Elvis film!” Debra told her. Geena Davis took over the role and won the audience over. The ending of the film–in which Penny showed the real women baseball players–inspired Steven Spielberg to use Holocaust survivors at the end of “Schindler’s List.” He asked Penny’s permission. She was happy to give it since he was the one who turned her on to directing.

Don’t miss this book! There’s so much about 70s and 80s TV, about the Marshalls and Reiners growing up in the Bronx and moving to L.A., and about Penny’s long friendship with Cindy Williams, who played Shirley to her Laverne. And there’s a funny scene of Penny meeting Hunter S. Thompson at a party. Plus lots about the original “Saturday Night Live.”

Nicely done. Bravo!

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Roger Friedman
Roger Friedman
Roger Friedman is the founder and editor-in-chief of Showbiz411. He wrote the FOX411 column on FoxNews.com from 1999 to 2009, where he covered Michael Jackson, and previously wrote the "Intelligencer" column at New York magazine in the mid-1990s, where he covered the O.J. Simpson trial. He also edited Fame magazine. His bylines have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, the New York Daily News, the New York Post, Vogue, Details, and the Miami Herald. He is a voting member of the Critics Choice Awards (Film and Television branches), and his movie reviews are tracked by Rotten Tomatoes. With D.A. Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus, he co-produced the 2002 documentary "Only the Strong Survive," which screened at Directors' Fortnight at the Cannes Film Festival.

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