Tuesday, January 21, 2025

Carnie Wilson Recalls How Producer Richard Perry Gave Wilson Phillips Its Start as a Pop Group

Carnie Wilson, daughter of Brian Wilson, has written a beautiful homage to late record producer Richard Perry on Instagram.

Carnie recalls how Perry was key to the beginning of Wilson Phillips, the group she was famously in with sister Wendy and Chynna Phillips.

Richard’s history with The Pointer Sisters encouraged Carnie to take his advice and counsel. What she doesn’t mention is that 20 years earlier, Richard has been the guiding light for the all girl band, Fanny.

“In 1986, Wendy, Chynna, Owen, and I took a chance one night and drove our car to (what was once Ronald Reagan’s home) music producer Richard Perry’s house. We had just formed a “group” and thought that we had a really cool sound. Chy’s Mom Michelle suggested we see her friend Richard Perry & sing for him. I remember the excitement as we drove up Doheny Drive and how nervous we were…but thrilled at the same time .

“We couldn’t believe that a producer of that magnitude agreed to meet with us. When we arrived, Richard rolled a joint and said “OK what do you got for me?” We had been singing a lot of Heart, Stevie Nicks, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac -practicing …so we decided to sing four words from Stevie Nicks’s song “Wild Heart”. We sang “dare my wild heart” and stopped. We said “so what do you think?” He said ” that’s it?… that’s all you’re gonna sing ,four words?” We said “yeah how do you like our sound?” He paused, took a hit off his joint and said “I see the Beatles”. We screamed. Then he said “I think you should name your group “Pretzels With Mustard”. He was clearly high from the joint… lol …we laughed hysterically.

“This was the beginning of our musical career. I’m grateful for a lot of things about Richard. He took us under his wing. He introduced us to a wonderful guy named Jim Tract . Jim was used to working with women because he worked with the The Pointer Sisters who we adored, so we trusted Jim. He taught us how to stand around a microphone together. Richard produced our very first record that we covered in the studio, which was “Mama Said” . I still have the demo on cassette.

“I’ll never forget those moments and those early days of recording. We were young and eager, hopeful and knew that we were on the road to something. He said we needed to write our own songs in order to be respected in this business. If we didn’t- we’d be looked at as spoiled, Beverly Hills children riding on the coat tails of our famous parents. That’s when the miracle happened and he brought us to @glen.ballard. Everything changed and we became a real group with songs we wrote and a vision. I’m forever grateful for u Richard. Rest in Peace and music.”

Roger Friedman
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Roger Friedman began his Showbiz411 column in April 2009 after 10 years with Fox News, where he created the Fox411 column. His movie reviews are carried by Rotten Tomatoes, and he is a member of both the movie and TV branches of the Critics Choice Awards. His articles have appeared in dozens of publications over the years including New York Magazine, where he wrote the Intelligencer column in the mid 90s and covered the OJ Simpson trial, and Fox News (when it wasn't so crazy) where he covered Michael Jackson. He is also the writer and co-producer of "Only the Strong Survive," a selection of the Cannes, Sundance, and Telluride Film festivals, directed by DA Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus.

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