Wednesday, July 15, 2026

CBS May Have to Cancel or Move “The Talk” in Ratings Chess Game to Keep “Drew Barrymore” Alive in the Afternoon

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CBS Daytime is about to get an overhaul of some kind. Things are not working out as planned.

The biggest problem isn’t even “The Talk,” which has dropped in the ratings to 1.5 million viewers per day. The larger issue is what’s happening at 9am, when the CBS-owned “Drew Barrymore Show” is dying against “Live with Kelly and Ryan.”

Barrymore’s show kicked out the Judge Judy spin off “Hot Bench,” which currently has no station in New York. Even so, “Hot Bench” is a ratings hit with 1.7 million viewers. It held its own against Ripa and Seacrest at 9am. There’s no doubt WCBS wants it back at 9am.

That would move Barrymore — now suffering with just 600,000 viewers per morning —  to 2pm with other talk shows like Ellen DeGeneres and Kelly Clarkson. If Barrymore were in that slot, at least it could find a personality. Right now, the former movie actress is trying unsuccessfully to do topical shows for 9am and they don’t work.

So what about “The Talk”? Without the originator, Sarah Gilbert, “The Talk” is not a pedestrian mix. Sharon Osbourne rules the roost. But it’s doing half the numbers of “The View” on ABC and has no news value like that show. It may indeed be time to let “The Talk” go.

Let’s not forget it was invented to accommodate  Julie Chen because she was married to network chief Les Moonves. But they’re gone. And if “The Talk” isn’t getting the numbers of the beloved soap opera it killed, “As the World Turns”– which left the air with around 2.6 million — why keep it at all? At this point, Osbourne– if she wanted to– could start her own syndicated series and make more money.

Stay tuned…

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Roger Friedman
Roger Friedman
Roger Friedman is the founder and editor-in-chief of Showbiz411. He wrote the FOX411 column on FoxNews.com from 1999 to 2009, where he covered Michael Jackson, and previously wrote the "Intelligencer" column at New York magazine in the mid-1990s, where he covered the O.J. Simpson trial. He also edited Fame magazine. His bylines have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, the New York Daily News, the New York Post, Vogue, Details, and the Miami Herald. He is a voting member of the Critics Choice Awards (Film and Television branches), and his movie reviews are tracked by Rotten Tomatoes. With D.A. Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus, he co-produced the 2002 documentary "Only the Strong Survive," which screened at Directors' Fortnight at the Cannes Film Festival.

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