Thursday, June 4, 2026

Cable Wars: Bret Baier’s Revealing Trump Interview Scores High, But Rachel Maddow-Lawrence O’Donnell Edge out Hannity-Ingraham

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Monday night was volatile in the war between Fox News and MSNBC, and the war inside Fox News as well.

The big story was Bret Baier’s crazy interview with Donald Trump. At 6pm, Baier let Trump skewer himself in unimaginable ways. The result was 2.6 million people tuning in as Trump liked, contradicted himself, actually admitted to having classified documents at home, and conceded that everyone he’d hired — all the “best people” from his administration, now hate him. This startling experience had to have been sanctioned by Rupert Murdoch, who let Trump swing in the wind.

Baier’s ratings were actually down from the 5 pm show, “The Big Five,” which today announced they were dumping Geraldo Rivera, one of the few people at Fox who can sometimes seem reasonable.

But then the big two hour block from 9 to 11pm went to MSNBC as Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell swept the floor with Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham. When Maddow is in her chair, Hannity is crushed, and that leads to O’Donnell doing the same to Ingraham.

Nice work at MSNBC which must get Maddow back on a regular schedule when Trump goes on trial in August.

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Roger Friedman
Roger Friedmanhttps://www.showbiz411.com
Roger Friedman is the founder and editor-in-chief of Showbiz411. He wrote the FOX411 column on FoxNews.com from 1999 to 2009 and previously edited Fame magazine and wrote the "Intelligencer" column at New York magazine. His bylines have appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, the New York Daily News, the New York Post, Vogue, Details, and the Miami Herald. He is a voting member of the Critics Choice Awards (Film and Television branches), and his movie reviews are tracked by Rotten Tomatoes. is articles have appeared in dozens of publications over the years including New York Magazine, where he wrote the Intelligencer column in the mid 90s and covered the OJ Simpson trial, and Fox News (when it wasn't so crazy) where he covered Michael Jackson. With D.A. Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus, he co-produced the 2002 documentary "Only the Strong Survive," which screened at Directors' Fortnight at the Cannes Film Festival.

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